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Why a GTA facility for priests with problems is half empty - thestar.com

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  1. Ok reddog, and Lady Janus:

    Blog lines are open for your negative spin. I thought I would write your expected comments for you, but I think I will let you do your own spinning.

    You like to find the negatives. I am sure you can dig something up.

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  2. I want to (insert immoral behavior here)...
    How dare they tell me it's wrong!
    I'll show them!

    yawn...

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  3. MBrandon, would you mind defining more specifically what you call "negative spin?" Or is that simply a euphemistic goad on your part? And if so, would you mind explaining why?

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  4. Well, Lady J:

    It seems that for you and reddog, anything either quoted by Father Tim, or written by him that supports the Catholic Church, and Christianity gets turned into a negative by both you and reddog, sort of a mixed tag team, if you will.

    Since a euphemism would be the substitution of a mild or vague term for one that might be offensive, I assure you that it was not euphemistic, since I would not want to offend you. I can't think of an offensive one to use for this anyway. Should I have had that intention, I expect that I would done so, though Father Tim might have censored my comment.

    There are days when I have too much time on my hands, about 365 most years, and there are days among them when I am not as patient with my fellow travelers on this journey of life.

    That comment was more petulant impatience, rather than euphemistic linguistics.

    I have since had a nap, and am refreshed to carry on the battle of wits (though I only have half of one left), engendered by the comments from yourself and reddog to Fr. Tim's blog.

    Should you long to add a little roughage to your diet, you can come to my own blog site and harass me directly, though it is fun to meet here.

    http://freethroughtruth.blogspot.com/

    Please excuse me for my impatience and irritability.

    Michael

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  5. "It seems that for you and reddog, anything either quoted by Father Tim, or written by him that supports the Catholic Church, and Christianity gets turned into a negative by both you and reddog, sort of a mixed tag team, if you will."

    Ah. Well, if that's how I'm being perceived, perhaps I'm not communicating well enough.

    I have no problem with Christianity. I see it as one of many paths/cultures that people are free to choose in order to live in harmony with the world around them. It's not the only one. And I get very impatient with people who insist that it is. I can get rather combative if they insist on it to the point of aggression.

    As for the Catholic church, it's like any other political structure -- centrally condensed power and bureaucratic rules and regulations have made it into a virtual government which needs to be opposed when it is wrong. And it sometimes is wrong. It is, after all, administered by human beings.

    As for being part of a tag team, I'm not sure how reddog will take to your trying to partner us in that manner. I think I might be just a tad too laissez-faire for his taste... 8^D

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  6. I'm surprised that anybody would perceive similarities between myself a LJ. The only principle we share is that none should tread upon the basic rights of others in the name of that which we believe. This seems like the minimum that all should agree upon in any discussion of philosophy.

    As far as I can tell, LJ wishes you well and holds no animus toward Papism. I see the Catholic Church as an ancient evil better left to history than contemporary practice. Brutal child sodomy/rape, the continuing coercion of women and children into chattel status and institutional reverence for a supposedly superior, pseudo celibate, priestly autocracy, that holds itself above the laity and secular law, are only a few of the practices that never should have lasted into the 20th, much less the 21st Century. I don't so much care if Catholics want to put up with this kind of treatment by their own church but institutional Catholicism actually seeks the validation of incorporation of its filthy dogmas into civil law.

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  7. MBrandon says,

    "My point to you was that you don't know beans about the Catholic Church and what it believes about salvation."

    Maybe you can tell me. What does it believe about salvation? What do you believe?

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  8. Hi All: Just got caught up on the most recent comments - Lady Janus, I enjoy your posts immensely and thank you for them. You, reddog and others are exactly the voices I hoped would be attracted to this blog. "The Rubber Hit's the Road" where various non/belief systems and religious/civil laws come it contact with each other. If I remember my elementary school math lessons for WAY BACK when, it is within that overlap (subset) of different circles (sets) that synthesis and growth of development if found.

    One need not leave her/his belief system to interact and live in peace and justice with people of different convictions. This is the single defining principle upon which rests our multi-cultural experiment known as Canada. People of all faiths and convictions are welcome here.

    Sometimes the language is harsh, even insulting; but even this tells us something and need be heeded. If we close our ears to all with whom we disagree, we doom ourselves to live in culpable ignorance. As a Roman Catholic and Evangelical Christian, I am convinced that this is where I am 'called' to be. I only hope that others feel welcome.

    Fr. Tim

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  9. Thanks, Tim; you really do "get it" when it comes to cultural interactions. And thanks, too, for providing this forum.

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  10. If most traditionalist priests were like you, Tim, there would be some hope for the future of the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, you seem to be fairly unique among this group.

    You aren't a Roy Bourgeois or Peter Kennedy but at least you have the desire to keep the lines of communication open. Most among your fellows will not even opine that this is a worthwhile goal. I agree that it is, if for no other reason than to continue to be reminded that the opposition are human.

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  11. reddog:

    Father Tim is one of the good ones, but he is in no way alone. I wrote a posting on my own blog in gratitude for 9 particular priests and 4 deacons most of whom I have encountered recently, and all of whom espouse the same tender heart that Father Tim carries with him.

    It is why I am very hopeful for the Catholic Church. There are fewer priests and clergy in general, but the good ones are shining, drawing on the not as good.

    One of the priests I was referring to in my posting was Father Sam Johnston, an 82 year old retired priest, for whom the term retired meant only that he has more flexible hours, more time to devote to individuals, and a pay cut.

    These are all very good men.

    http://freethroughtruth.blogspot.com/2010/04/good-friday-april-2-2010.html

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