18 May, 2012

Sebelius speech embraces church, state separation | WJLA.com

Sebelius speech embraces church, state separation | WJLA.com

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  1. Anonymous19 May, 2012

    There are lots of different Catholics that believe lots of different things. There is no requirement that you believe this or that group of bishops or the pope. They've been wrong before, probably are now and will be again in the future.

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  2. Anon

    That's a very interesting approach to our church's ecclesial structure and the role of the magisterium. You are correct in positing that faith and it's application cannot be forced down anyone else's throat. That's unless of course you wish to retain an ecclesiastical designation - Pontifical University - a Catholic College or University. If the relationship of a college or university to the church is of no consequence or meaning then it should be stripped of such a designation together with any and all rights and obligations associated with it.

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    1. Anonymous19 May, 2012

      An institution may not have any relationship with the ruling autocracy and still be associated with a specific religious order or movement. It may still have the support of many or even most of the Catholics in the population that it serves. It can call itself whatever it likes. Whether they receive some kind of stamp of approval from the Vatican means little. The approval of the local bishop means even less, especially when it is one of the really bad ones like Morlino, here in Wisconsin or that guy in Peoria, who calls the president and his friends Nazis and Commies. Who would want their endorsement? They are sexists, homophobes and racist bigots. They wouldn't be treating Barak Obama like that if he weren't a man of color with Kenyan roots.

      I think it's interesting that the pope and his boys go around hoping for renewal of faith in others, meaning closer to their faith. Why doesn't the pope wish for a renewal of his own faith and that of his curia to something closer to what most Catholics believe? They are the diseased ones. The thieves, sexual abusers and haters. You can't have a church where the leaders believe one thing and the rest believe something else. The priests say that they are right, of course but they are the ones who keep getting caught doing the perverted and illegal stuff. They will never get anywhere with the people like that.

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  3. Wow - your sharing is interesting but somewhat scattered.

    Since I have seen enough in these blogs, let's begin with a simple question: are you a practicing Roman Catholic?

    Sorry for being so direct but this very simple question helps at least me in understanding what your 'axis' is.

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    1. Anonymous19 May, 2012

      Depends on how you look at it. I go with the Womenpriests. I'm very happy with them. They consider themselves Catholic. So do I. It's not all women priests though. There are some men. All are mostly married. Some are Gay married.

      There are some who go back and forth between the women and the old diocese. Not us. My wife says we go here now. She's thinking about becoming a priest herself. She's 71 but why not? What else has she got to do? She's feeling the call strong and was always better educated and more religious than I. More power to her I say.

      Hey, we decided Martin Luther King was a Saint recently and put an iconic image up on the wall. Pretty cool, huh?

      You think my writing is scattered, Steve? You should read your own from my perspective. embittered, hurt and defensive.

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  4. Sorry to give a false impression - the dear Lord has been very good to me and the people of God very supportive. For this I am very grateful. Sometimes in the heat of sharing one can cross the line into uncharity, which I freely acknowledge I do.

    Have a great day!

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