20 June, 2012

Nagging feeling that Quebec ‘registry of homophobic’ acts is really about another agenda | LifeSiteNews.com

Nagging feeling that Quebec ‘registry of homophobic’ acts is really about another agenda | LifeSiteNews.com

7 comments:

  1. Anonymous20 June, 2012

    Hi Tim,

    I find it interesting that the following comment was posted on a similar "news" article on LifeSite by someone calling themselves "bobfairlane":

    "Homosexuals are "phobic" of normal people. They are diseased, corrupt, criminal elements whose open goal is the destruction of the nuclear family and "straight" culture. They are running with scissors in the plan to rend the national fabric. They should be on lists!"

    I suppose if one starts out with these basic assumptions about LGBT folks, then such a registry might understandably be interpreted with such paranoia.

    Hysteria and paranoia aside, many minority groups track statistics and data on hate crimes and incidents of discrimination against their members. Why should this option be forbidden or curtailed for LGBT activists?

    In fact, the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada claims that they monitor such issues on behalf of their members as well: http://www.evangelicalfellowship.ca/page.aspx?pid=563

    Canada has also recently opened a bureau to monitor discrimination against religious minorities abraod.

    So...with all due respect to the religious right, not sure why this issue is tipping their canoe - unless of course - if they are starting with a baseline assumption that LGBT citizens are diseased, corrupt and criminal. In fact, such baseless and vile assertions only underline the need for such a registry.

    If folks are worried about being named and shamed - then perhaps they should cease and desist from acts of overt discrimination. Problem solved.

    Cheers...Martin

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  2. Anonymous21 June, 2012

    Nice spin. Lets take the most extreme opinion posted on a forum regarding the subject and paint anyone concerned about the Homophobe Registry and the abuses it could perpetuate and paint everyone with the same brush.
    Imagine we did that with atheists commenting on religion? I've read some pretty scary comments from professed atheists online, but I wouldn't be intellectually dishonest enough to paint all atheists with the same brush.
    Any and all criticism or rejection of the homosexual lifestyle is automatically flagged as hate by the gay movement. Thats a given. You can be assured people will land on this list who have absolutely no similarity to the quoted poster. They may find his attitude and statement reprehensible, pose absolutely no threat to gay people and may in fact care for homosexual people very much. Their crime will be not giving two thumbs up to the gay lifestyle and all the social engineering underway to have us and our children all draped in rainbow flags at the next gay pride parade.
    Does this registry actually name people publicly and/or keep their names on record who have anonymous allegations levelled against them from an online report? If they do, thats scary stuff and opens a pandora's box of possible abuses.

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    1. Jack Egan22 June, 2012

      The above post is so on the mark!!! If you do not praise or envy the gay people, you are a homophobic, or some other stupid word given new meaning by this band of different people.
      I do not like the gay lifestyle, and I certainly do not like it being pushed into my face. Bad enough the CBC is ridden with employees who trumpet this lifestyle, there are other channels to watch. But, they spend taxpayers dollars to do so.
      The uprising will soon come.

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  3. Anonymous22 June, 2012

    Anonymous writes:

    "Nice spin. Lets take the most extreme opinion posted on a forum regarding the subject and paint anyone concerned about the Homophobe Registry and the abuses it could perpetuate and paint everyone with the same brush."

    A couple of points:

    a) I did not say that this comment was representative of all people who oppose homosexuality. I did suggest that one would have to hold some pretty extreme views on homosexuality (such as this one) to justify the religious right's apoplectic response to the Registry;

    b) No one I could see on the LifeSite comment thread seemed to have a problem with this extreme view, and there were many other comments in a similar vein (e.g. calling LGBT citizens "Nazis");

    So - who is guily of "spin"? Who is guilty of misrepresenting the opposition's views?

    Anonymous then writes:

    "Any and all criticism or rejection of the homosexual lifestyle is automatically flagged as hate by the gay movement. Thats a given."

    You can prove this statement? You are aware of what a "sweeping generalization" is, and why it is not a valid tactic in making a respectful and cogent argument?

    Anonymous then writes:

    "Their crime will be not giving two thumbs up to the gay lifestyle and all the social engineering underway to have us and our children all draped in rainbow flags at the next gay pride parade."

    More hyperbole. I also love how the religious right employs code words such as "social engineering" - as if the concept itself is somehow inherently evil. When religion's try to impose their theological views on society - is this not also a form of "social engineering"? Is "social engineering" bad when it is initiated by a government, but OK when it is initiated by a religion? Is "social engineering" ever a good thing, or is it only good when initiated by anti-gay religions? I would appreciate your clarifications.

    Bottom line - when one strips away your "spin", your misrepresentations of my points, and your sweeping generalizations, we are left with just a lot of animosity and no answer to my primary question: Lots of organizations track and monitor discrimination and abuse - so why is this example so monsterous?

    Cheers...Martin

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  4. Anonymous22 June, 2012

    Jack Egan wirtes:

    "The uprising will soon come."

    Sounds like a threat, Jack. Will this uprising be accompanied by violence?

    You know it is exactly this kind of seething animus that tells me we need to do a lot more as a society to address homophobia, biphobia, transphobia and plain old anti-gay bigotry.

    We really should consider an on-line registry for Ontario as well.

    Cheers...Martin

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  5. Jack Egan23 June, 2012

    Martin, the uprising I refer to is one that may well mirror the coup the gay community orchestrated over the last 20 years to bring about the present regretable circumstances.
    There is one thing certain- in the end,Truth defeats lies, and the deceivers will face justice.
    The author of all Truth is God, and God also is the Judge.

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  6. Anonymous25 June, 2012

    Well Jack,

    I will agree with you on one small point: "Truth defeats lies".

    And that is why the Church is losing its dishonest campaign against the legitimate civil aspirations of LGBT citizens - not just here in Canada, but also in the US.

    Cheers...Martin

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